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in libya. this is a picture of the plane that brought the bodies back to the united states. back to their families. both the president and secretary of state will speak at the ceremonies and family members will be present. u.s. ambassadors chris stevens, foreign service information management officer sean smith. and former navy seal tyrone jones and glen doerty were providing security for ambassador smith were all killed in tuesday's attack in benghazi, libya. meantime angry protests spread today throughout the muslim world including jerusalem and the west bank along gaza. u.n. peacekeepers were also attacked by protesters. no casualties reported. in tunisia protesters stormed the u.s. embassy setting fires and battling with tunisian security forces. two people were killed. another 29 injured. in all protests broke out today in at least 17 nations from north africa across the middle east to indonesia. all the demonstrators voicing outrage against that film made in the united states that ridicules the prophet mohammed. nbc's jim maceda is in that country. we hope to have him join
of the united states and i think he really did make it worse by sitting down with "the view." i love "the view," i love the show, they're all friends. i'm a big fan. but in was not the moment to sit down with "the view." that's done by mitt romney, by barack obama, by everyone else. but not this day and at this time. >> jamie rubin, there is a schedule. obviously that the campaign feels it wants to keep. they have a lot of events coming up just today. joe scarborough said this morning so meet with folks for 15 minutes. to something. what would you say about this? >> well, i come from the foreign policy side of the house and worked at the state department and the president's schedule would come up in meetings with the white house. and there's always this tension between the election calculations, the political calculations, and those in the foreign policy professionals. you know, from the standpoint of a professional, obviously you'd like to see the president engage with these crucial countries, not just our friend israel, but a lot of friends that we have in the world or as andrea put it, coun
the long-term. despite the bumpy path and the disturbing images, it's in the united states fundamental interest that people have the ability to choose their own governments, that the governments be democratic and free. that's in our long-term best interest. we need to reinforce that. >> we are in the middle of a heated presidential campaign. there are different foreign policy visions. that's why we wanted to dedicate the hour today to understand these different views. mitt romney spoke out this week, criticizing the administration, talking about whether the united states was apologizing for some of the initial response to this. these were his comments this week. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values. >> our embassies did not stand up for free speech in this initial response to this violence. and the republican charge is that it's weakness on the part of this administration that invites this kin
, criticizing the administration, talking about whether the united states was apologizing for some of the initial response to this. these were his comments this week. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values. >> our embassies did not stand up for free speech in this initial response to this violence. and the republican charge is that it's weakness on the part of this administration that invites this kind of chaos that the administration has not been tough enough on radical extremists that are beginning to take root in these countries. how do you respond to that? >> first of all, i think the american people and certainly our diplomats and development experts putting their lives on the line every day around the world expect from our leadership unity in times of challenge. and strong, steady, steadfast leadership of the sort that president obama has been providing. with respect to this, i think,
are reaction to a little-known amateur movie produced in the united states which ridiculed the prophet mohammed. it gained attention because an obscure florida pastor began promoting it, the same man who triggered deadly riots in afghanistan when he threatened to burn the koran. we want to go straight to cairo where we find nbc chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, fill us in a little more this morning. >> reporter: good morning. a libyan source has told nbc news that the u.s. ambassador who was visiting the consulate was killed along with three others. not sure of the nationality of those three others. the u.s. state department has not confirmed this, but this has been told to us by a senior security source in libya. we've been also told that the libyan prime minister and the libyan president will both be speaking today about this subject, offering their condolences to the united states and to the family of the fallen ambassador. and this is according to the report. we were told that when gunmen and a mob stormed the consulate building, they first attacked it with rpgs, then the
. the following month the united states announced that u.s. drone strike had killed a libyan who was the second ranking guy in al qaeda central. a guy who went by the moniker al libi which means the libyan. the same group in benghazi responded immediately within 24 hours. they launched another attack that they filmed al qaeda-style, and they ultimately claimed credit for it. this time their target was the u.s. consulate in benghazi, the same u.s. consulate where christopher stevens was killed two nights ago. they hit the consulate with an ied, turned the attack into an al qaeda-style video type of propaganda. the same group hit a british envoy in benghazi with a car bomb. it had the hallmarks of al qaeda inspiration or al qaeda training. they filmed the incident, dropped leaflets. they tried to take as much credit as possible. then on the morning of september 11th, this week, al qaeda central put out a video calling for attacks to avenge that same killing of al libi the group in benghazi had avenged before when it was first announced he was killed. by that night, the night of september 11th thi
internet movie they find offensive that was produced in the united states. the government repeated they have no affiliation with the movie. president obama had a blunt late night phone call with egypt's new president, morsi. president obama warning it could be jeopardizes if they don't take a stand against american attacks. too little too late. morsi asked for $5 billion in loans from the inf telling egyptians it is their duty to protect our guests. in yemens a mob scene. they evacuated to a safe location and no embassy staff was injured. there was still plenty of damage as you can see in the pictures. hundreds of protesters tore through the security wall and smashed bullet-proof windows and torching cars. yemen's president immediately apologized to president obama for the attacks. >>> new developments on the attack in benghazi. we'll get the latest on that. first, we go to cairo. jim is standing by. what is the latest there? >> reporter: hi, willie. it's getting quite noisy here now. several hundred protesters who were setting up camp overnight on tahrir square tried to make anoth
carefully. >> would you consider the current egyptian regime an ally of the united states? >> i don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. they are a new government that is trying to find its way. they were democratically elected. i think that we will have to see how they respond to this incident, how they respond to, for example, maintaining the peace treaty with israel. >> i want to bring in nick kristof and look at the cover this week. the agents of outrage. we'll talk about that, as well. couldn't be happier to have the two of you and your expertise in this area. i want to start with what happened in libya and give us your perspective. these assailants were heavily armed. it they seemed to be organized. does it seem to you perhaps to have been timed for 9/11, was it an attack of opportunity? >> i really don't know. but it is unusual in that libya is really the most pro american country in the region. the ambassador was be loved in libya. he had helped save benghazi, the city in which he was murdered. and libya as responded pretty appropriately.
know. yesterday, on the 11th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the united states, the u.s. embassy in cairo released a statement that read, in part, "the embassy condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of muslims. as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. they released that statement because there was an angry mob gathered outside, and that mob continued to gather as the day wore on. nearly five hours later, the state department confirmed the embassy had suffered a breach. protesters outside the embassy were reportedly there due to anger over a reported low-budget anti-muslim film made in the united states and posted on a youtube account. more on that film in a moment. by late afternoon, the compass embassy was reiterating its statement on twitter, one of the tweets read, "of course we condemn breaches of our compound. we're the ones actually living through this." a short time later, the state department confirmed the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi, libya, was under attack. searches for the british mo
of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> good morning. it is thursday, september 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, national affairs editor for "new york" magazine, john heilman, richard haass. and in washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. >> we have so much to talk about this morning. of course breaking news overnight. >> yeah. >> we, of course, have been focused on libya. yesterday we were focused on the political scrap that was taking place while we had chaotic situations across the globe. >> i'd say it was more than a scrap. >> i think it was a terrible moment, maybe a defining moment in the campaign, of course what's going on in egypt right now. is equally troubling. and i suspect that when the streets clear, perhaps the most troubling aftereffect of this will be what has not been said by the muslim brotherhood or the leaders of egypt. this morning we'll have to get to that later because this morning more breaking news. now out of yemen. >> yep. witnesses say hundreds of demonst
not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country to see. the bush administration banned the media from showing those dignified transfer ceremonies as the invasion of iraq started in 2003. and they kept the policy in place throughout george w. bush's time in office. as the country waged two of the longest wars in our history. it was not until the new president replaced george w. bush that the ban was rescinded. on thursday, february 26th, 2009, just five weeks after president barack obama was inaugurated, the defense department lifted the ban and one week after the ban was lifted, the following thursday, the media was allowed to cover that solemn return ceremony for the first time in a long time. and maybe it is because we did go so long as a country without seeing images like this that we are a little roc
. >>> a world on the brink. >> would you consider the current egyptian regime an ally to the united states? >> i don't know if we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. >> violence in response to a speech is not acceptable. >> we will bring their killers who justice. >> seen as a party on the brink. >> today romney is the only guy looking presidential. >> george bush's a rock, that's how you install a democracy in the middle east. >> the way you voiced it, it was pretty much what mitt romney said yesterday. >> i think this president is a winner. >> the first response to the united states must be outrage. >> we begin this afternoon with the president and secretary of state both working to address the ongoing crisis in libya, even as the nation continues to mourn the loss of ambassador stevens and three other senior members of the diplomatic staff. the has spoken to the leaders of both libya and egypt, inviting them to step up security while delivering marines and vessels to the region. these demonstrations are spreading to iran, bangladesh, so earlier today secretary of
shakes the resolve of the united states of america. >> earlier today secretary of state hillary clinton stepped up her criticism of the anti-muslim film that first prompted the protests. >> to us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensib reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> joining me now live from cairo, nbc's similar maceda. give us the best description of how things are right now. >> reporter: well, ironically benghazi remained calm today. if you look at it, perhaps the libyan government's quick crackdown there on those alleged perpetrators. four individuals were arrested today. there's a manhunt going on that might have had a tamping-down effort. even there in benghazi, the u.s. government is taking no chances. we understand that all u.s. personnel has now been or have been evacuated to tripoli and only emergency staff are kept at the embassy here. here in cairo it's another 24 hours of protests against that made in usa anti-islam film. overnight last night some dramatic scenes near the u.s
mohammed as blas fa mouse. we don't know if this person is base ed based in the united states and that's to whom the video is attributed as why the attacks were made on american properties abroad. we don't know if there were more complex reasons. this is not the first time that perceived criticism of islam has been reacted to violently in the muslim world. a florida pastor promoted what he was calling "burn a koran day." that spurred days of protests in afghanistan killing nine people there. in 2005 it was cartoons depict depicting the prophet mohammed. and u.s. service members accidentally burned copies of the koran in order to dispose of them. it sparked riots throughout afghanistan killing 30 people overall. but again, breaking news at this hour. a day of violent protests in libya and egypt. the american consulate and the american embassy in egypt. and reports still unconfirmed at this time that one american may have been killed at that consulate attack. this is an evolving story. we're still trying to get confirmation, but we'll update you as we learn more. that's tonight's breakin
. and may god bless these united states of america. >>> we begin this afternoon with the president who just an hour ago was at andrews air force base in maryland as the americans killed in libya were returned home. president, vice president, secretary of state and defense secretary were there to receive the bodies of ambassador christopher stevens, sean smith, tyrone woods and glen doherty, all killed tuesday at the american consulate in benghazi. the secretary of state began by offering these words of tribute. >> so we will wipe away our tears, stiffen our spines, and phase the future undaunted. and we will do it together, protecting and helping one another, just like sean, tyrone, glen, and chris always did. >> in addition to the presence of their families and the most senior members of government, this was also an opportunity for friends and colleagues to pay their respects. dozens of of state department workers boarded buses in washington to attend the ceremony. the president said those that gave their lives represented the very best of american leadership. >> the united states of ameri
, the israelis do not believe that there is as much time as you well know as the united states believes. what can we do to persuade prime minister netanyahu not to take preemptive action because there is more time, or do you agree there is more time for sanctions to work? >> i would agree with secretary clinton. i agree with that. additionally, the p5 plus 1 negotiations, i understand, have resumed. i think what needs to be done candidly and i have suggested this privately to the administration, i think we have to learn whether the supreme leader wants an agreement and if he does, what it will take. it may well be that the united states has to bilaterally step up and take use of this opportunity, to interface dir t directly with the supreme leader. i understand israel's position. i also know that the united states has been working hand and glove with israel, in many different ways, many of them classified, so there has been really unbridled cooperation with israel. so, i think we have done everything that we should be doing. >> and senator, just briefly, you're suggesting direct talks between th
, that the united states government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. to us, to me personally, this video is disgusting and reprehensible. it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. >> the film was initially to have thought to have provoked the attack on benghazi, libya, tuesday. ambassador chris stevens, former navy s.e.a.l.s chris woods and glen doherty were killed in that attack along with sean smith. not long after the attack reports surfaced that it might have been the premeditated work of a radical islamic group retaliating for an american drone strike which had killed an al qaeda command leader. libyan officials said they had taken four men into custody in connection with the attack. they also said they thought the attack was meant to drive a wedge between americans and libyans. this may be true. but even with all that has happened in libya, the bigger challenge for the obama administration may be with what's taking place in egypt. where even before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya protestors stormed the emba
, and that's, of course, a key swing state, believe that barack obama was not born in the united states. so this jocular, sarcastic reference to it recently by governor romney is not a joke. that this is something you can keep igniting and keep stirring up. aren't you astounded that a huge percentage of actual voters in the republican party in ohio, a reasonable state, believe the guy wasn't born in this country? >> sure. and same percentage -- same type of percentage believe he's still a muslimeen though it's clear that he never was and never has been. look, there are still warring flags out there and to my flends and colleagues in pennsylvania, don't take anything for granted. the voter i.d. law if it stands is going to hurt us. there's no question about that, chris. i still believe the debates are going to be a factor and governor romney can recover in the debates. lastly, don't believe for a minute that they're not going to spend any money in pennsylvania. the super pac will come in the last six or seven weeks and try to swamp the state with ads. swamp the state. >> i agree. all those p
in and see him. him is the president of the united states. he's very much a junior partner. that is the new vice presidency. and that's what's really changed. it began under mondale and was that way to our country -- well, it wasn't so useful under cheney but i think now the vice president is a junior partner. he's explained to barack obama. looking up to him as a smarter guy, perhaps a tougher guy. but certainly with great loyalty. >> ed shultz, we're leading up to the president's speech. what are your impressions there? >> he was trying really hard tonight. he was trying to get as emotionally connected to the audience as he possibly could. it wasn't his smoothest performance, but it was effective. you could tell the crowd was involved. they know this man. they know what he's about. he's a genuine guy. high on sincerity, believable. i thought it was good testimony to the president. >> chris? >> i don't think we've seen that pitch of the president so far. the idea that it's about his judgment and what's in his gut and this kind of undescribable part of his being that can make the right call
governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage as the president of the united states, people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future and wednesday night is the restart of the campaign and i think you'll start to see the numbers move back in the other direction. >> how do you restart the campaign, governor, at the last moment where you can reach tens of millions of people. why isn't it too late to believe that the presidential debates, after you announce your running mate, after you have a convention, that you can restart with the presidential debates? >> absolutely. you're going to have tens of millions of people for the very first time, david, really tuning in and paying attention to this race. and also, for the first time you're going to have them be able to make a direct side-by-side comparison. remember, the end of the day, campaigns are about the candidates. they're going to be able to see these two candidates next to each other, debating each other and governor romney, i know is going to do a great job wednesday night of laying out his visio
states. let's watch. >> there is not a liberal america and a conservative america. there is the united states of america. there is not a black america and a white america. and latino america and asian america. there's the united states of america. the pundits, the pundits like to slice our country into red states and blue states, red states for republicans, blue states for democrats, but i've got news for them too. we worship an awesome god in the blue states and we don't like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. we coach little league in the blue states and yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states. there are patriots who oppose the war in iraq and there are patriots who supported the war in iraq. we are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the united states of america. >> wow. you know, governor, i'll call you bill, known you forever, i was with a crowd, african-american crowd in a tough neighborhood north philly before the election in 2008, it's a tough crowd, tough neighborhood. they needed a lot
and a white america and latino america and asian america. there's a united states of america. >> eight years after the keynote that launched his national career, four years after becoming the nation's first african-american nominee, tonight president barack obama accepts the nomination a second time. tonight the president makes his case for four more years. >> four more years. >> america needs four more years. >> tonight more from the first lady, vice president biden, caroline kennedy, the foo fighters? yes, the foo fighters. weather moved tonight indoors. but after a first night owned by michelle obama, after a second night owned by president clinton, expectations for the finale are sky high. msnbc's primetime coverage of the democratic national convention's final night begins right now. >>> thank you for joining us. i'm rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed shultz, melissa harris-perry, chris hayes, and the senior strategist steve schmidt. lawrence o'donnell and al sharpton will be joining us in a moment. leading us from the site of the convention is our co
with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job. but not everything i say is elegant, and i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> all right. just because i have no discipline, richard wolffe, take 20 seconds to double down on those comments. your response. >> well, you're not tied if you're at least five points down in ohio. you can't win if you're that far down in ohio. both candidates, let's face it, the president and mitt romney, have made more than their fair share of mistakes here. the difference here is that mitt romney's mistakes are of his own making, by and large. there aren't any more feet that he can shoot himself in. and the problem is that the tax situation, his comments have come from him, and the president can argue, well, you know, you can disagree with all of my approaches, but there were other things at play in the economic crisis that led to the unemployment we've got. that's the difference we're at right now. >> sam stein, it seems he sort of blamed himself for it and said it
to anybody -- >> who? >> barack obama, the president of the united states. >> because romney did at a really opportune time. >> but he's going to all of these places, no time for netanyahu, but time for "the view," time for -- >> no time for netanyahu. >> that was good. >> i know. i know. >> wally from "leave it to beaver" was in that. >> was jerry mathers. >> no, that was the beave. >> asked about the newly released tax returns. >> all right. >> take a look. >> governor romney on "60 minutes" was asked, does he think it's fair that he pays a lower tax rate than somebody who is making $50,000 a year? and he said yes. i think it's fair and i also think that's the way you get economic growth. i've got a different vision about the way we grow an economy. i think you grow the economy from the middle out not from the top down. >> let me ask you, jon meacham, do you think the president was more presidential on the view or on "entertainment tonight"? >> i think "the view." >> clearly. love the view. >> there's this long tradition of this. remember -- >> fdr on "the view." >> fdr was actually on "in
this country back on track by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states? [ cheers ] >> the problem with president obama and lots of politicians like him in washington are that they're more concerned about their next election than they are about the next generation. we are not going to make that mistake. we will lead. because what mitt and i are asking you is, help us get this country back on the right track. we want to earn your votes and deserve this victory so that we have the mandate and the moral authority to get this country back on the right track. [ cheers ] >> now, to be fair, president obama came in in some pretty tough times. no two ways about that. he inherited a difficult situation. but here's the problem. he didn't make things any better. he's made things worse! he's run out of ideas. and that is why -- no, he had high des. let me correct you there. he had a lot of ideas and he got most of his ideas in place and that's the problem. you see -- >> there you see the gop vice presidential candidate there paul ryan stumping on the campaign trail in the all-
security at greater risk. >> last friday, mitt romney brought up the president of the united states, his birth certificate. they can't get away from that, but wait a minute, it was just a joke. but the day after the republican convention, speakers lined up to question president obama's americanness. is he really an american? president obama has been president of the united states for nearly four years and republicans are still questioning his values as an american citizen. it's the twisted version of the truth and it was embraced by everybody in the room. >> barack obama has a problem with the american dream. >> obama is stifling the american dream, primarily because it isn't his dream. >> what this administration has in mind for america isn't a renewal. it's a great leveling out. >> barack obama seems intent on enrolling more people on food stamps. >> president obama began his presidency with an apology tour. >> i know you're about ready to throw up, but please bear with me. it wouldn't be the republican national convention without more dishonesty about welfare and medicare. the republi
in the united states on a military plane from libya. president obama spoke of the sacrifice made by the foreign service workers. the president was joined by his national security team including secretary of state hillary clinton. overseas protests spread across 17 different countries in the middle east as anger mounted over a strange and mysterious and very low-budget film denigrating the prophet muham d muhammad. in cairo, one protester was killed today in a clash with police blocking the way to the u.s. embassy. we'll be monitoring the events in the middle east and will bring you developments immediately. back here, there has been a key question since the romney/ryan ticket launched their attack on the obama administration's handling of the events in libya and egypt. that question is, what would they is done differently? and the answer, according to the romney/ryan campaign, is if we were in charge, it never would have happened. and why wouldn't it have happened? one word. resolve. richard williamson, a romney foreign policy adviser said, quote, the respect for america has gone down. there's
as the democratic candidate for president of the united states. we have a pretty feisty audience. >> we have so many paul ryan fans. paul ryan, paul ryan, paul ryan! yes! yes, can you feel the love. i bet we have a lot of crimson tide fans, too. roll tide! >> it's all right. we have with us contribute mike barnicle and senior political analyst mark halperin and msnbc political analyst john heilemann, whose cover story for this week's "new york" magazine is on joe biden's role in the campaign. >> what a great cover. >> as we said, later today democrats will kick off their national convention here in north carolina, a state with 15 electoral votes up for grabs this november. president obama won north carolina by a microscopic number of votes in 2008. but a new poll shows the president will have his work cut out for him if he hopes to win here again. mitt romney currently leads the president 47% to 43%. one of the first orders of business will be to adopt the party platform. it echos president obama's call for higher taxes on wealthier americans while backing same-sex marriage and abortion rights. it s
for the united states and the things that he's done for humanity, what a credible voice tonight. what a credible voice. as much as he has been through, as much as he was targeted, he can speak from experience and say i never hated those guys. i wanted to get something done, and he did. i thought he spoke very well to the economy tonight too. he made the case about the philosophy of success, about, you know, wealthy people doing a little bit more because they can. i mean, i thought he had a great -- >> i think before you lead the hate part, because he talked about people proud of being -- their kids being born in america, which referred to this is a deeper and different kind of hate. they hated hillary clinton for what she wanted to do. they hated him for what they wanted to do. they hate president obama because of what he wants to do and because of what he is. that's what he was eluding to. which was a different hate than bill clinton. they never asked bill clinton for his birth certificate. so he understands the levels of hate here. as much as they fought hillary and him, they never asked him f
opposition. overseas president obama restored the reputation of the united states within the community. dialling a and collaboration are once again possible with the return of spirit and trust and good will to our foreign policy. of course, there remains much to do. communities across america and countries around the world, life is too hard for too many people. we see their struggle and also our hearts go out to them. in the coming years our hands must continue to reach out to them. after all that remains to be done and at home and abroad, the evidence is overwhelming. president obama is a leader for america and we faison slaught of some of the most complicated and international challenges to confront any u.s. president in modern times. it is up to all of us to make sure that the american people understand exactly what is at stake. and at risk in this election. with president obama in oval office we can make good progress towards becoming a fairer, stronger, more prosperous america. and a nation adjusted to changing and challenging times, hold it true to unchanging principles. a leader
that a black man was elected president of the united states. it made us proud as americans to know that those prejudices that we've had in the past are falling away. >>> beyond some of the more personal areas, we sat down at campaign headquarters the next morning for a more detailed discussion about where governor romney stands on the key issues of the campaign. so governor we talked last night about the jobs and the economy and also the debt. and i want to begin there. you've called the debt and our deficit a moral crisis. and yet in addition to extending the bush tax cuts you want to cut tax rates an additional 20%. you rejected a 10-to-1 spending ratio when it comes to spending to increasing taxes, and yet you want to balance the budget. the math simply doesn't add up. does it? >> well, actually it does. and the good news is that five different economic studies, including one at harvard, and princeton, and aei, and a couple at the "wall street journal," all show that if we bring down our top rates, and actually go across the board, bring down rates for everyone in america, but also limit
public investments. our good schools, our universities. medicare, security. and that in the united states when those two have met, when individual initiative has met with a common sacrifice and investment by the nation, that's what's created upward mobility. and the ability to reach the american dream in our society that makes america unique. and i put before the nation the clear choice that we have in this election between a leader in barack obama who will -- who has been doing that, making those investments and will in the future and another leader who would scale back from those investments and therefore i think hinder america's ability to be the land of opportunity going forward for everyone. >> where did you come up with that line of the night? i think it was the best line so far in this convention where you said mitt romney said just ask your old man for money when you want to start a business. you said why didn't i think of that? where did you come up with that great sarcasm? >> what i wanted to do was be optimistic but point out the differences. as the first lady pointed out very
slack. >> at least for 24 to 48 hours until you have a dead united states ambassador come back home. i think that was the unbecoming thing. >> but the egypt mistake is an interesting mistake and i think deserves some scrutiny. >> it was an interesting mistake. i think we can get past it. i think it is very good news that the president spoke with president morsi and let him know, this is not acceptable. this is not how you guys behave. and john, from all the report s i've read, the egyptians said message received. the muslim brotherhood, even, said message received. we're going to pull back. why is this important? this is so important for so many reasons in the middle east. the least of which not being israel and trying to keep -- trying to keep israel safe. >> well, you think about it, you know, the historic u.s. allies in that region, all of those relationships are somewhat more tenuous and trfragile than just few years ago, whether it saudi arabia. you want to have that relationship be strong. i think the president was speaking the truth which is that it's a government in transition.
parents living there. at age a5 or 6, there was revolution and they came back to the united states. my dad had to get help, financial help. the government helped his family to get on their feet again. by the way, that's the way america works. we have big hearts. we care for people who have needs. we help get them back and lift it up. we don't make that a permanent lifestyle. we don't have that become government dependence. we help people and get them on their feet. >> the headline in our first read is a more moderate mitt. when you look at the comments on health care and look at comments about helping folks out, i can only wonder if he said the remarks on immigration at the republican primary if he would have been booed off the stage, michael. who is this man now today? >> that is the question, and you know, these -- some of these remarks are kind of interesting, particularly his owning up to the existence of the massachusetts health care bill. but i can't help but think, tamron, he should have done this pivot months ago. september 18th, 19th is not the time to do this pivot. april, may, o
of the united states. it is a job that brings with it a lot of speaking responsibilities and oh, my god, could you see that tonight. first lady tonight, a long, personal, emotionally, frankly excellent speech from michelle obama. chris matthews? >> certainly made the connection, don't you think? i mean, so much of tonight was interactive. it was between her and that audience in the room. i thought the camera work was so important watching this on television. you saw on the faces of men and women, black and white, all different backgrounds, the connection. she was with people. the emotional connection, telling the story of her love affair with her husband. with her life of getting ahead. but there was one big difference than four years ago which just came through in the earlier speeches tonight. it was hope and change, yes, hope and change but not hope and change imaginally overnight. but hope through work and patience and time and effort and then change. i think it was a much more mature look at their own lives as they got there. i'll tell you, i assume most americans watching tonight who have
? >> the united states military says most joint operations with the americans and afghan soldiers are going to be suspended until further notice. and mika, this is horrifying when you look at the fact that u.s. policy makers have been justifying continuing this war in afghanistan based on this -- this -- this lie that we're going to be able to train them and help these people who are shooting and killing our troops, help them run the country. >> the longest war and for the longest time no one who is in charge or who knows about these issues can tell us what winning means. the move comes amid an alarming string of insider attacks. the latest on sunday that left four american soldiers dead. yesterday, nato announced it was also scaling back joint operations with afghan security forces. the joint combat patrols are seen as a critical part of the u.s. plan to withdrawal from afghanistan by the end of 2014. and just a few hours ago, in the capital of kabul, nine people were killed when a suicide bomb rammed a car packed with explosives into to a mini bus believed to be carrying foreign workers.
to win and distance themselves from this guy who is, as i say, plainly not fit to be in the united states senate, given some of his views. but it is possible, as jim vandehei said, it's possible he could win this race. and it's clear that a lot of republicans and the republican establishment now looking at the math are thinking about coming back in. i think the republican senatorial committee is very likely to put money into this race. i think the polls will tighten. as horrific as it will be to many people not just on the left but in the middle of the electorate, i think there's a reasonable chance he could win this race. >> not only do i agree with that, take a look, joe, at what roy blunt did. he is moving up in leadership, and he came out and supported akin yesterday. so that is -- >> the senator from michigan. >> yeah, that's the leading indicator. that tells you that the republican committee is going to go full in, and they see this as their way to regain control, and it's all about regaining control. and i can tell you that some of the very people now supporting him are republicans
a record for a record high for the number of suicides in the united states military. then there are the multiple deployments that families go through, the military moms and dads waiting for their spouses to return home. romney said he spoke to the american legion and vfw, but that doesn't cut if. this is the party that practically coined the phrase, we support the troops. this is the party that demonized people who wouldn't wear the flag lapel pin. this is the party that always claimed to have the upper hand on protecting the country and national security and love of country. and accusing president obama of not being american enough and not loving the country, but mitt romney can't bring himself to n insert a paragraph about the troops in harm's way right now and have been there multiple times in his acceptance speech? i think it is the ultimate quis qualifier. here's senator john kerry addressing the issue last night. >> no nominee for president should ever fail in the midst of a war to pay tribute to our troops overseas in his acceptance speech. mitt romney, mitt
that as a man accepts his party's nomination for president of the united states, to be our commander in chief, he didn't even mention the war we were fighting, which will be our longest war, not to mention he didn't mention anything about veterans and our sacred obligation to them. i find it stunning. i find his comments in the aftermath of that stunning. his response to bill crystal's criticism and fox news' criticism of him, it's remarkable. what i have been talking about, martin, is what an exceptional president and commander in chief president obama has been. he's done exactly what he said he was going to do by ending a war in iraq, setting us on a path to hand over authority in afghanistan by 2014. making sure that we refocused our efforts on going after al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan, decimating al qaeda. you saw the news yesterday what happened in yemen. proving the mission to eliminate osama bin laden from the face of this earth, and also and importantly, this is something i'm not sure romney and ryan understand, honoring the commitment we have to our veterans when they return.
weather only to find out that the united states senate under democrat control will not even bring a budget plan to the senate floor. people should know the republican led house on the other hand, met its obligations, most significantly, it passed a budget to rescue america from debt crisis. >> alabama senator jeff sessions there. we have each side blaming the other. who do you think really gets the blame here? sn>> he's right the republicans accomplished their objectives because their objective is to rob obama of re-election, like that's what they said their objective is, the stated goal. maybe they haven't quite achieved that stated goal but in terms of what they're trying to do, they've gotten closer than the democrats for sure. the democrats have not been able to do anything because the republicans said that's their goal. it's hard to say staying in session any longer would improve things. this is a horrible meal. do you want seconds? there's one way to look at it, no way congress could get more unpopular. they'd have to spread diseases and kick babies to get more unpopular. i'm sure th
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